Comments on: The Most Wacky Football Manager 14 Feature Idea Ever

By: Jordan Strong

Jordan Strong — Fri, 09 Aug 2013 18:52:00 +0000

Yeah… and I think with more in depth scouting you would get a good idea of a players strengths and weaknesses. Good thoughts mate.

By: Danny Chapman

Danny Chapman — Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:41:00 +0000

You have touched on my point exactly, you picked your player at st ettiene based on performances not 1-20 stats but I guarantee you would not have bought that player after scouting and checking his stats!

Im not saying they should go completely, just be hidden from the user.

By: Jordan Strong

Jordan Strong — Fri, 09 Aug 2013 17:23:00 +0000

I see what you are saying, and I think it is very interesting… but without 1-20 attributes… how will the match engine work? I’m not sure exactly how the ME works at the moment, but it seems obvious that a players performance is based on his attributes combined with his role on the pitch, as well as his morale.

But without the 1-20 attributes there would be such a heavy reliance on morale and chemistry that it would become so unrealistic. You could win the league with a bunch of amateurs just as long as you kept them happy and have a good tactic.

And I honestly don’t see any problem with the current 1-20 system. With all the variables that go into the match engine the 1-20 attributes won’t make or break a player. For example in my st. etienne save, One of my best performers was a guy names saadi. His attributes were very poor, nothing above 15, my assistant gave him a 2 star rating. And yet he was my top scorer and top performer. Averaging a goal a game.

By: FdotM

FdotM — Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:25:00 +0000

Great article. I think rather than making the game like that we should be given an option if we want the attributes to not be there, as a lot of people would probably not like it. But that would make things so much more exciting.
Also…maybe the attributes should be rated according to form and confidence. If say, Navas has a poor few games and he has no assists or goals then his confidence my drop and impact this form and performance.
Anyway, just a thought.

By: Danny Chapman

Danny Chapman — Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:05:00 +0000

Their would be massive benefits of this situation too, for example team ‘chemistry’ and ‘fitting in’ advantages which are thwart with issues when looking to sign players best solely on their 1-20 assets.

By: Danny Chapman

Danny Chapman — Thu, 08 Aug 2013 20:03:00 +0000

I agree with you Jordan, it is only a hatchling of an idea but a manager could and would be forced to use his knowledge, personal and mental traits of a player, form and history to come up with his favourite team.

Which is exactly how its done in real life.

My point was that with SI constantly trying to make the game as real as possible, surely this is a logical step?

By: Jordan Strong

Jordan Strong — Thu, 08 Aug 2013 19:55:00 +0000

That idea kind of falls apart when you are trying to create a tactic and especially when you are trying to find regens later on in the game. Many tactics require players with certain attributes, for example Nezza’s super 442 requires fast defenders. If there were no attributes… how would you be able to tell what players fit your formation and which ones dont. Anyways… the attributes dont always predict results in FM. there are hidden attributes such as important matches and consistency which do affect the game. And even messi will play bad in a poorly developed tactic. So I don’t think your idea solves anything to be honest.

By: Alan

Alan — Thu, 01 Aug 2013 13:12:00 +0000

The problem is that this DOES exist in the real world, even if its not explicitly marked as such. Coaches, Scouts all rate certain technical skills, physicall attributes of players. They might not have a 1-20 score card (or they might!) but the concept exists.

By: Danny Chapman

Danny Chapman — Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:23:00 +0000

You’re right, I think the majority of FM fans would love it but there will be some who don’t!

By: Oludipe Olanrewaju

Oludipe Olanrewaju — Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:12:00 +0000

I think it is a great idea. It will make it very realistic but truth is that not many players are that realistic. I don’t know how many people watch every single minute of every game and your idea will require that. I would love it though…would love an incentive the watch the full match.